diabolocitrus escribió:i'm glad that this male interrest you Tristan,
let me tell you the full story,
i made a first polinisation between this panama male and 5 Sugarloaf ( SL Fn+1: open poll [4:5] ) in the fall of last winter.
next the last grow: ciskei and ciskei oth to cross with Panama (the last one because of thrips i couldn't start seedlings nor cuttings). but in late flowering i see one ciskei really different. When she dried i recognize easily sugarloaf perfume (so special, woody, sugary, fruity, acacia gum). So this plant come from the 1st polinisation. it's the SL x P bx. but unknow SL...
this plant is the only one i test from the Panama crosses (these tests will start next months i think).
she was much more columnar with a big baseball bat cola than SL used to be (SL is a creeper). the branches stay shorter. the flowers was big, fat with new pistils again and again (but SL too). the smell remains SL. i had botritys on it in late flowering because of hot temperature (like a ciskei oth).
I can't really compare 'cause i didn't grow panama (the male is a cut from a friend, he used it with a branchy P female to make another generation) but this (unknow) SL x P had the same shape of bud than my friend's Panama Fn+1: a fat top bud. less compact than SL, but much more fat.
to conclude:
this P male influence the shape of the plant and the shape of the flower in this cross. he seems to produce a lot of pollen (but i'm not very experienced to say that), no problem plenty of seeds .
I think it's verde because of columnar shape. no color in the offspring (i repeat i test only one female at this time so i speak of only one female). i don't know about flowering time 'cause there's a lot of fast and early caracters in SL, they could be back again.
these P crosses will be grow this winter, i'll could say more early 2012.
Hola.
Será un placer ver que aporta ese macho, esperamos noticias.
Saludos y que vaya bien.